Long-range "pee" ops

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From: <CavittP [at] aol.com>
Subject: Long-range "pee" ops
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:38:16 EDT
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In a recent posting I told of flying my L-235/320 non-stop from San Diego to

Seattle.  Well...  The "pee" thing is a problem and on several attempts to do

the trip without stopping, I had to cut it short with a pit stop about half

way.  On one occasion I landed after the first 2 hours (stockton) because

there was just no way I'd make it any further.  Normally I can make Redding (3

hours) with my teeth floating



The trick is do a good job of getting it all out just before you takeoff.

Don't drink anything for about an hour before you depart and nothing while

enroute.  There's no way one can use a relief tube of any type - the geometry

is all wrong.  I guess if you had to, one could do a catheter (there is an

external type that goes on like a condom).  If I were to attempt an ocean

crossing, or something like that, I'd probably get myself some Depends or a

Piddle Pack from Sporty's.  



It's fun "going for it" if the weather and other factors are just right.  It's

not often that the conditions are just right for a non-stop "attempt" at max

range, so when I get the chance I'm going to give it a try.  



Pete Cavitt - N320PL

619-283-7473

Long-range "pee" ops

From: Marvin Kaye <marvkaye [at] olsusa.com>
Subject: Re: Long-range "pee" ops
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:47:40 -0400
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Posted for Martin Quartim <martinq [at] cris.com>:



Belive it or not is normal for a glider to soar for more then 4 hours. We

use a release system with a catheter that you can buy at a local medical

supply store.

A plastic tube runs from the cockpit to the outside of the glider. There is

one problem, if it is too cold it will freeze and block the tube. In this

case we use an internal bag that can also be purchased with all the tubbing

and fittings from a local medical supply store.

Some of the guys take a bottle of Gatorade and when they finish it, they

pee in it. I don't know how they do it, the glider cockpit is a lot more

inclined and tight then any other aircraft.



I highly recommend drinking before and during a flight and I think it is

dangerous not to do so. When you are the pilot in command your brain better

be running at optimum performance and it needs fluid to do so.



Happy Landings,



Martin

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