Coax cable selection

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From: Angier M. Ames <alphadog [at] nii.net>
Subject: Re: Coax cable selection
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:50:15 -0400
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I'm sure this subject has been disected ad nauseum in this list

previously...but either I missed it or forgot (due to my age of course).

Wouldn't it be great if there was a simple, black and white answer.



I'm sitting here with half a dozen technical data sheets from Belden Wire and

Cable Company on RG 58/U (9223), RG 58/U (8240),RG 58C/U, RG 58A/U, RG 142

(83242) and RG 142 (84142) and it looks like they make excellent bathroom

reading material...my eyelids are already beginning to droop.



Is there any compelling reason why I should not go to my local Radio Shack

store and buy x number of feet of Tandy RG58 cable and then move on to the

next project?

Coax cable selection

From: John Cooper <heyduke [at] digital.net>
Subject: Re: Coax cable selection
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:29:04 -0400
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The main difference between brands/types of coax is the signal loss at a

given frequency. I think you would find the Radio Shack variety more lossy

than the Belden.



Does this matter?



Probably not much on a 15' run from your com radio back to the antenna in

the tail.



However, remember that the signal that is "lost" is radiated through the

shield of the coax into the airplane environment. This can cause other

problems besides weak signal strength. For instance, the fuel level sender

in my friends L-235 picks up stray radiation this way which causes his fuel

gage to peg every time he keys his mic.



Me? I went with mil-spec RG-142 for my com feed, and the Radio Shack stuff

for the marker beacon coax. I plan to use the "good" RG-58 to connect to

the nav antenna which is in the baggage compartment ceiling (when I get

around to installing a nav radio, someday). I will also use the lowest-loss

coax I can find for the transponder feed. I'd use RG-8 if it weren't for

the adapters I'd need on each end.



Check out http://www.aeroelectric.com

Coax cable selection

From: Bill Gradwohl <Bill [at] YCC.COM>
Subject: Re: Coax cable selection
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:51:28 -0500
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One of the things to consider with coax is how will you terminate the ends.

The choice of termination method also determines the type of coax to get

to begin with.



We've installed thousands of coax network connections over the years as

networking consultants, and the best method of termination is either a

soldered or crimped on connector. By best, I mean reliable, low noise, and

likely to last a long time.



Almost no one is willing to solder on a connector however.



That leaves the crimped on variety as the best option. The screw on types

are terrible. They corrode over time, and we've seen serious networking

problems due to the connectors. Their physical properties are also not very

good. The connectors are easily pulled off the cable with minimal effort.

We've also seen that many people damage the coax in the process of

trying to put on the screw on connectors.



The crimp on connectors effectively squeeze the connector onto the coax.

This means that the coax had better offer enough physical resistance to

get a good crimp. Some coax cables have a hollow plastic core with a

plastic spiral keeping the center conductor centered within the coax. The

hollow part is easily compressed by the crimp process, and therefore does

not produce a quality end product. The coax may be electrically good, the

connector may be good, but the combination doesn't work very well.



Other types of coax have a relatively soft foam core that surrounds the

center conductor. This is better, but still not what you want. The best

coax has a hard plastic core that is difficult to deform. When a crimp tool

wraps a connector on that type of coax, it's there to stay. We've tried to

rip the connectors off these cables and usually can't do it.



We have also found that plenum rated coax is physically tougher and

just slightly smaller in diameter than regular PVC jacketed coax. Coax

with a plenum rating is usually Teflon coated, and will not give off poison

gas if it burns.



One last point. If you can see a deformation in the coax where it was

kinked during the installation process, consider it a bad cable and

replace it. Coax should be installed so as to produce bends with a

minimum bend radius of 6 inches. If you kink the cable as is likely to

happen if it is unspooled improperly, it will radiate your signal at the kink

and less at your antenna.



Bill Gradwohl

IV-P N858B

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