Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 10/11/1998 - 16:09 Forums: LML Archive From: Hannes TRNKA <hbtrnka [at] arn.net> Subject: V-8's vs. opposed engines Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:09:53 -0500 To: <lancair.list [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >6-cylinder engines, both in-lines and horizontally opposed versions are >balanced >inherently both in first and second order frequencies. This is why >straight six >cars are so smooth. >V-6s and V-8s both have a 'rotating couple' (can't remember if it's first or >second order) that means that to smooth it out would require an additional >counterrotating balance shaft. These engines can sometimes feel 'lumpy' as a >result. While it is true that theoretically a 6-cylinder opposed engine creates less vibration than a V-8, the end result in a comparison between the TSIO-550 and the EngineAir V-8 is different. The difference between these two engines is that they are running at different speeds and their reciprocating masses are different. The TSIO-550 has 550 cu in displacement and turns at 2500 rpm in cruise. The EngineAir V-8 has 375 cu in displacement and turns at 3900 rpm in cruise (as you might have guessed, it is geared). Because of the smaller displacement of the whole engine and by it being divided by 8 instead of 6 to come up with the displacement of each individual cylinder, the weight of each piston and connecting rod in the V-8 is less than the weight of those parts in the TSIO-550. This smaller mass results in vibrations of smaller amplitude which is partially offset again by the fact that those masses move at a higher speed. I'm not an expert in vibration, but I think that the reason for the EngineAir V-8 being smoother than the Continental is that you have lots of smaller pulses rather than fewer large pulses and that higher frequencies are perhaps easier to dampen. If it's the case that a lot of vibration on the TSIO-550 is coming from the propeller, it sure helps that this V-8's prop is turning around 1900 rpm in cruise >Along with others, I've raised my eyebrows at the thought of someone trying to >develop an alternative powerplant without the backing of NASA or other well >heeled organization. I worked in the transmission department at Chrysler >for a >few years down the hall from engine design and recall that a lot of people >took >at least three years to develop a scratch engine (GM took about 8 with >Northstar) with a lot of dynamometer and proving grounds time. The EngineAir V-8 is in my opinion not a scratch engine. It is basically a small block Chevy V-8 and is being built out of high quality and proven components. The only "scratch" component is the gearbox. Post a Reply You must have JavaScript enabled to use this form. Your name Subject Comment * Switch to plain text editorMore information about text formats Text format Filtered HTMLPlain text Filtered HTMLWeb page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.Each email address will be obfuscated in a human readable fashion or, if JavaScript is enabled, replaced with a spam resistent clickable link. Email addresses will get the default web form unless specified. If replacement text (a persons name) is required a webform is also required. Separate each part with the "|" pipe symbol. Replace spaces in names with "_".Allowed HTML tags: <a> <em> <strong> <cite> <blockquote> <code> <ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd> <h1> <h2> <h3>Lines and paragraphs break automatically.Plain textNo HTML tags allowed.Each email address will be obfuscated in a human readable fashion or, if JavaScript is enabled, replaced with a spam resistent clickable link. Email addresses will get the default web form unless specified. If replacement text (a persons name) is required a webform is also required. Separate each part with the "|" pipe symbol. Replace spaces in names with "_".Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.Lines and paragraphs break automatically. Attachments Add a new file Files must be less than 512 MB.Allowed file types: jpg jpeg gif png txt doc docx xls xlsx pdf ppt pptx pps ppsx odt ods odp mp3 mov mp4 m4a m4v mpeg avi ogg oga ogv weba webp webm. Leave this field blank
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