Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/09/1998 - 04:11 Forums: LML Archive From: <Sky2high [at] aol.com> Subject: Flying in Prime or not -- A vision test for everyone Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:11:34 EDT To: <lancair.list [at] olsusa.com> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Dan: It hard to see fast homebuilt in gray prime and any other color except, perhaps, if it were painted in a neon color. My commentary was tongue-in- cheek since I am in a reasonably high traffic area myself (ORD Veil). My friends and I have tried to join up for experimental reasons such as video- taping the tufting of an area, checking whether certain doors are closed in flight, etc. This has been done (or tried) in severe clear and hazy conditions, over known landmarks with constant radio contact. We hold the following to be self-evident: 1) The slower plane goes first until join up. 2) The leader takes a higher altitude until the follower has him in sight because it is easier to find someone in a sky background as opposed to ground clutter. 3) Talk often and realize that you won't see your bogie until about 1/2 to 1/4 mile apart. Ask the leader to turn 90 degrees since the wing high profile is easier to see. 4) Join up from a turn -- its easier. 5) Take formation flying lessons (I'll have to do that sometime). In haze, we have sometimes searched for 1/2 hour and have had to give it up. Finally, if its' so hard to find a small, fast, painted airplane when you know where it is and you're talking to the target, think how hard it is for anybody to see them (us), especially at closing speeds 400 to 700 mph. Maybe the time is right for TCAD or TCAS or whatever (as long as I can spoof it to avoid the incoming missle) for our type of airplanes. P.S. White is the most visible color in all lighting (except a white-out). Scott Krueger N92EX Post a Reply You must have JavaScript enabled to use this form. Your name Subject Comment * Switch to plain text editorMore information about text formats Text format Filtered HTMLPlain text Filtered HTMLWeb page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.Each email address will be obfuscated in a human readable fashion or, if JavaScript is enabled, replaced with a spam resistent clickable link. Email addresses will get the default web form unless specified. If replacement text (a persons name) is required a webform is also required. Separate each part with the "|" pipe symbol. Replace spaces in names with "_".Allowed HTML tags: <a> <em> <strong> <cite> <blockquote> <code> <ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd> <h1> <h2> <h3>Lines and paragraphs break automatically.Plain textNo HTML tags allowed.Each email address will be obfuscated in a human readable fashion or, if JavaScript is enabled, replaced with a spam resistent clickable link. Email addresses will get the default web form unless specified. If replacement text (a persons name) is required a webform is also required. Separate each part with the "|" pipe symbol. Replace spaces in names with "_".Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.Lines and paragraphs break automatically. Attachments Add a new file Files must be less than 512 MB.Allowed file types: jpg jpeg gif png txt doc docx xls xlsx pdf ppt pptx pps ppsx odt ods odp mp3 mov mp4 m4a m4v mpeg avi ogg oga ogv weba webp webm. Leave this field blank
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